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Yea the show could have done something weird and made it an episodic bounty hunting show. It could have had relevance to the main storyline in tangential ways, like some other thing important to the main story is happening while boba is getting a bounty same place same time. It could have thus explored anywhere and been creatively free. But Disney is almost completely bankrupt creatively now. They only know how to make shows that are 100% plot driven, are not episodic, and function as plot continuation rather than series in their own right.
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Ironman 1 gets alot of credit as the "template" for the MCU, but I would say Raimi’s Spiderman 1 – a Sony production – was the real template in establishing the tone and the beats for those later films. I would say the original Batman films were also important in teaching filmmakers what should and shouldn’t be done, perfected shortly after by Raimi.
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They do look like garbage. I think someone should tell them they don’t even actually have interesting IP much less a business plan to leverage them. Atari should focus on developing new IP. But that’s hard and they won’t do it.
It’s the best show I’ve seen in quite a while.
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He did a Moses film. About a guy who could part seas.
He’s worn this:
He has a problem with wizards?
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The Last Duel and House of Gucci appear on very few peoples’ top 25 lists from last year.
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I would add Boyhood, Phantom Thread, 12 Years a Slave, Under the Skin, Hereditary, Wolf of Wall Street, Moonlight, Birdman, Ex Machina, Gravity, The Lighthouse, Edge of Tomorrow, The Witch and Melancholia to that list.
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Yea, I remember reading a few years ago how bad Zynga was doing and close to shuttering. But they made nearly $3B last year. Not sure what the NOI is, but that’s a big number. Take Two, as a whole, made only a little more than that in 2020.
Until the 60s, the pope literally wore a crown and his crowning was referred to as the papal coronation. The three-tiered crown, some think, is meant to symbolize that the pope is the king of kings, and true ruler of the world.
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I’ve read the books. I don’t mind the show. I enjoy it actually, quite a bit.
I recognize that when you are plotting out a show, what you’re doing is completely different than plotting out a book and it just has to be different.
I mean – some people are mad that mages don’t look how they imagined them while reading the books. As if that has any relevance.
I also don’t hold the books up on a pedestal. Some of the writing is truly bad. Some of the books are just not even that good and there was plenty of room for improvement. Young Book Ciri was truly was of the most annoying characters ever written.
Plus, fans of the witcher should be pretty excited about new content in general. it means this world will continue on. That’s what I’ve found so great about the witcher games; they are not adaptations but continuations of the books. I’m not playing what I’ve already read.
That being said, there were a couple of departures that rightfully annoyed the book readers. My rule of thumb is that if you are going to adapt something, at least where the main draw is the characters themselves, you have to get them right and you have to get their relationships with the other main characters right. You can do pretty much anything else so long as you get the characters right and in this case yen was basically character-assassinated in season 2 and the relationships between her, geralt and ciri were just really off. Which is too bad because that’s what they did best in season 1. Ciri and Geralt hugging at the end of S1 was more touching than their entire father-daughter relationship in season 2. Geralt telling Yen "you’re important to me" in season 1 followed up in season 2 with a sword to her throat and all but declaring Ciri his property when he tells Yen "mine" followed up later by Ciri murdering half a dozen witchers had me wondering: Do the show runners really hate these characters?
I had empathy for her. We’ve all met people who aren’t "natural mothers" as she put it, people who don’t feel the way we believe a normal human should feel. I thought that was kind of the point – is this person deserving of empathy? You, the viewer, are the judge. And I can’t honestly say there was a right answer to that question. There are very few films that had me going back and forth so often, asking myself – do I even like this person? She was an alien, an outsider, a point emphasized by the beach scenes where there was an enormous group of family and friends having fun opposite her, a loner. Ed Harris was basically the male version of her and, not surprisingly, all their early conversations were two outsiders awkwardly trying to navigate one another, that is, until they realized they were pretty similar in some ways. When it became apparent that he hadn’t seen his children in perhaps decades, and could barely speak about them, whereas she did still have a relationship with hers, and stayed somewhat close to them, you could see the wheels turning – perhaps I’m not the worst person because this guy is carrying some heavy shit and seems like a nice, caring (overly caring you could say) man. The Dakota Johnson character was just like both of them, but experiencing it anew and with a different spin on it: She had all the help in the world, and genuinely loved her child. And yet….
The psychology of this film was off the charts.
This was a very good film. Well directed. And the three leading women were all perfect. Ed Harris was good too as that weird guy you kept running into on holiday. Is Dakota Johnson just going to keep getting better looking every year?
There were alot of dead moments.
Episode 1 – Geralt fights the bruxa.
Episode 2 – Geralt fights the leshen.
Episode 3 – Geralt fights the myriapod.
Episode 4 – no action
Episode 5 – no action
Episode 6 – Geralt fights the chernobog and the Michelet Brothers
Episode 7 – Geralt briefly fights a Nilfgaardian patrol
Episode 8 – The witchers fight basilisks and Voleth Meir
There was some good stuff in there, but season 1 had the kikimora, the striga, the ghouls, renfri and her men, the wedding fight, the nilfgardian invasion, yennefer’s fight with the assassin, the reavers, Cahir’s fight with his doppler and ……… the Battle of Sodden Hill.
The first three episodes of this season were the best ones, then it dragged a bit.
That was the first thing I thought of when I heard about the film.
The other thing it reminded me of was What Remains of Edith Finch.
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I know it can be frustrating when a show deviates from the source material you already love.
I understand that. I’ve read all the books. Season 1 deviates from and expands upon the books considerably and it didn’t bother me at all. Season 2 likewise deviates from and expands upon the books considerably and it mostly didn’t bother me.
Fringilla’s story and portrayal in particular is both completely made up in some instances, and deviates completely in others. Francesca is another. Spoiler: She was part of the Brotherhood from the beginning and everyone knew her whereas in the show she was completely unknown to the human mages.
Even the differences in Geralt’s and Ciri’s stories didn’t bother me, including (a) Geralt’s feeling’s toward his child of destiny; and (b) the way they met. In the books, Geralt didn’t reject Ciri. He met with Calanthe and told he he’d be back some years later to claim her. Before he and Ciri officially became a part of each other’s story, they met for the first time in Broklilon. That scene in the show, where Ciri drinks from the waters of Brokilon? Geralt was there and that’s where they met. I thought the show was an improvement on the books in this regard because it gave both a relatable, psychological reason for wanting to be together, not just "destiny."
But that’s the same reason why Yen’s betrayal in the show was so jarring and not at all an improvement over the books and in Season 1 they set it up to play out in exactly the same way as the books. She wanted to be a mother. She lost everyone that meant anything to her. In some cases she was literally disposed of. Before the battle of Sodden Hill, Tissaia asks her: "Are you ready to die?" Yen says: "Well I’ve lived so many lives already." Tissaia: "And you haven’t been happy in any of them." Yen: "Life has nothing more to give me." Tissaia: "YOU still have so much to give." This is a premium tear-jerker of a conversation. Yen is giving up on life. In the next scene, the battle, she takes the hill and the pure anguish you see when she’s torching the Nilfgardian army is one of the best show-don’t tell sequences in any show I’ve ever seen. She is inflicting her pain on the world.
In the books, she agrees to work with Ciri at the Temple because a part of her still wants something out of life, which is true of Season 1 Yen as well.
The appeal of Yen’s character is that she has a hard, barbed shell, with a soft, very deep interior. Her exterior makes her almost impossible to crack and very funny and self-assured (to others), but also unreachable and almost nihilistic. But her depth of feeling and inherent goodness and relatable desires drive her character. She’s the ultimate virgo.
The show replaced that – a beautifully written character that is not only central to the story, but emblematic of it – with a cheesy "I lost my power" narrative.
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Words and actions.
I don’t trust you, but I’m leaving my daughter in your hands for several months while I go do something else.
Forget the books – the show is not even internally consistent.
I would say the only reason they might have wanted to explore it more is because everyone kept talking about it, not because it was so key to the plot. It felt dumb that he was a video game dev and that they kept pointing to clips from the prior films to say that’s a video game, when my brain was like – that’s a movie. But if you want to split hairs, that was kind of the point – that video games are hyper realistic and the characters live in one, not knowing and therefore driving home the point. Anyway, the reason it didn’t bother me – it was cheesy, but funny – is because it could have been anything. Neo was this hyper aware person that needed to be a part of the programming, for reasons I missed in the doogie monologue. Thus they needed to do everything in their power to make him believe he was crazy, and that his memories were fictional. The video game was just one part; the pile of blue pills another: the handlers yet another.
They do portray New York City quite well (as a native New Yorker who grew up in the 80s).
They have a lot of work to do to redeem yen. But im open to the idea that they can.
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Yen was the BEST character in season 1 and they did her dirty here. What a mistake.