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Michael Myers’ legacy isn’t legendary in the least! His legacy is mostly terrible movies!
Well, that IS why the 2018 movie decided to ignore all of the previous sequels and act like it was the second Halloween movie. Maybe Author Deidre just thinks this entry is disappointing compared to 1978 and 2018, which are the only previous movies that count now.
But if you’re also counting every OTHER movie that has "Halloween" in the name and features Michael Myers? Yeah, his track record is pretty shite.
The only thing truly legendary about Michael Myers is that, of all the slasher characters to arrive and thrive in the late 70s and early 80s, he’s the one that KEEPS getting revived and revisited…
There’s also the fact that he was the first one of his kind and set the standard for the genre? And the fact that the 1978 original is a legitimately great film.
But don’t kid yourself. Once a franchise has had four or more movies, it never really dies. Freddy will always come back. Jason will always come back. There’s nothing special about Michael being revisited and revived over and over and over. Every single Hollywood franchise does the same thing.
(….And since Jason Voorhees is basically just a Michael Myers knockoff, I’d argue he’s actually even more devoid of depth/motivation/personality.)
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This is well-argued. I haven’t seen the film yet, but you certainly have made some compelling observations.
The only thing I question in here is this one passage:
Worst of all, there’s no consistency to Michael as either a masked person, or an inhuman force. Sometimes he toys with the bodies, sometimes he doesn’t. Sometimes he taunts the victims, sometimes not. While previous Halloweens portray him as cold, methodical, and unreactive, Halloween Kills shows him as inconsistently playful.
Hasn’t that always been the case, though? He didn’t toy with Annie at all in the original, and he just kind of sits still and waits for Bob, but then he totally plays with Lynda for a while – putting on the ghost outfit and such. And then he lays out Lynda with his sister’s headstone to screw with Laurie, so he keeps toying.
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Dragging your plan for a two-film story out into a trilogy definitely always works well. Just ask Peter Jackson.
I guess how horrible it is kind of depends on whether there’s actually something called a "Timestack" in the story. If there IS some kind of "Timestack" or "stacking time" concept, then it’s probably acceptable. If there isn’t, it’s just kind of dumb.
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So did the original story have the same problems with the men? I guess that’s really my question. Is this a matter of the source material being the problem? Or is an adaptational issue?
(Upon first read, this article confused the heck out of me, because I saw the headlines about the trailer coming out TODAY, so then I assumed this article was a reaction to that same trailer, but it’s actually… a review? Of the whole-ass movie? Wow, they went from trailer release to actual release faster than I’ve ever seen done. DAMN. They really dragged their feet on doing any marketing at all, eh?)
The character I miss the most is nervous ol’ Lyle – the Gil Gunderson of Animal Crossing. But Kapp’n is an easy second.
1) I was never aware of there being any question about whether Batman kills. The answer is that he is sworn not to take human lives. So the answer is universally "no," unless you’re an alien or you argue some loophole or something. But I guess since this is a non-canon story, Tomlin can make it more of an open question?
2) Given that Leslie Thompkins has been in multiple video games, multiple animated shows (she does, in fact, appear in five episodes of Batman: The Animated Series), and two live action shows by now – plus the fact that she consistently makes comic appearances every year, usually multiple times – it’s kind of weird how obscure Tomlin seems to think she is. And especially the fact that she’s "never gotten a modern update." I mean, she was updated for the New 52 (though in fairness, that was 10 years ago) and has consistently been in comics up to and including this year, so what constitutes a "modern update" for him? It kind of makes it sound like he’s bringing her out of mothballs to make her relevant again, but that’s clearly not the case. So… maybe the "modern update" is the fact that she’s more psychologist than physician now. Or maybe it’s making her into a black woman instead of a white one, because increased diversity is more accurate to modern America. Or maybe he just isn’t really aware of how much Leslie Thompkins shows up – which seems pretty likely.
3) Weirder still, Tomlin says he’s "creating" a character who can be much firmer with Bruce/Batman. But Thompkins has ALWAYS been the character to lecture Bruce and put him in his place for his own good. Tomlin ain’t "creating" shit. And the fact that this is a non-canon story (at least to the mainline DC universe) really emphasizes how little of an impact this will have.
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Well the first movie skewered slasher tropes in general quite well. The second one did some work skewering sequels, but it was more lip service than it was showed in practice. The third one… talked about trilogies, at least? And the fourth one successfully skewered the reboots/remakes of its time pretty thoroughly. So really I think the credit mostly goes to 1 and 4 for doing that work.
Logically, this one should indeed parody some of the current trends. Maybe they do some talk about how a chunk of modern horror tends to be couched inside the horrors of racism and other forms of discrimination? But I will note that they never let the jokes enter into the death scenes. They try to keep them separate.
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From the minds that brought you:
- 2018’s Halloween, the sequel to 1978’s Halloween
- 2011’s The Thing, the prequel to 1982’s The Thing
- 2019’s Shaft, the sequel to both 1971’s Shaft and 2000’s Shaft
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My thoughts as they hit me while I watched the trailer:
- Ugh, I hate that they feel the need to show a five-second trailer FOR the trailer in FRONT of the trailer. This a trend that desperately needs to die.
- "Every story has a beginning." Oh god, that’s awful. This isn’t even a prequel, for god’s sake.
- It’s interesting and very weird that this is a late-’90s period piece. I know the original games came out back then, but that seems extremely unnecessary.
- Okay, so Claire appears to be the main character. She’s actually my favorite Resident Evil protagonist! But uhhhhh, it feels gross to how they made her into a heroic conspiracy theorist. I mean, given how destructive conspiracy theorists currently are to actual modern life.
- Kaya Scodelario looks really strung out throughout the trailer, but her onscreen brother Robbie Amell looks like a fresh-faced baby boy despite being a cop AND older than her. It feels like this is intentional. Like they’re trying to say something about the burden of the truth that Claire’s been carrying around or whatever.
- Oh jeez, they directly remade shots from the PS1 games in live action. The first zombie reveal in the mansion! The truck overturning at the start of RE2! That’s SO cool to see. I am living for that!
- Not getting much of an impression of the Chris and Leon actors. They each only get one or two lines here, and they sound awkward when delivering them. There may be a hint of cheese about them, but they might play better in context. I can’t accurately judge based on so little.
- I respect the use of the song here.
- They referenced "ITCHY. TASTY." Niiice.
- Lisa Trevor looks deeply unsettling. Very cool. But is she the only monster we’re going to see that wasn’t already portrayed in the Jovovich films… ?
- ……I legit hope this thing has Hunters in it. Maybe some Chimera. Or OOH how about Plant 42?! Yawn! Neptune! There’s so much more to be mined from these games beyond just "zombies and whatever else looks gory," Constantin Films. Call me?
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Hot Archie Cinematic Universe
Did you just coin this label, Sadie? Please tell me you did.
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Spider-Man has spent most of his comic career as a great character/universe in desperate need of good writing. He rarely gets it.
There’s a reason why it’s hard to list off the Top 5 Spider-Man comic stories ever told. It wouldn’t be too tough to do that for Superman or Batman or the X-Men, but Spider-Man? There’s like TWO stories that people even agree are great. It’s weird, given how iconic he is.
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Sakurai did not showcase Sora’s Final Smash, known as Sealing the Keyhole, saying that he wanted players to experience it for themselves.
Then, while he demoed the character in battle against Cloud and Sephiroth, he performed the Final Smash himself, so we saw it anyway.
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Nope, just the one Wednesday.
In fact, the ‘60s TV show only ran for two seasons — it’s amazing how outsized its legacy is in light of how short its original run was.
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I never watched the first animated movie, either. However, I heard nothing but good things about it (gently good things, but even mild positivity is still positive), so my family and I are planning to watch it fairly soon as part of our Halloween season.
Sadly, I’ve heard nothing but negativity about this sequel. The consensus seems to be that it lacks any of the charms that the first had.
If nothing else, I give these movies props for faithfully capturing the original drawings of Charles Addams.
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Are they ever used for kissing?
Based on the first movie’s scene where the symbiote is transferred from Michelle Williams to Tom Hardy, I think they definitely are. I feel confident some tongue was given in that experience.
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not anime’s propensity for designing scantly-clad female characters who look suspiciously young or doing the "gay guy joking about raping other men" they all seem to love doing
What the HELL kind of anime have you been watching?!
I’ve literally never seen this.